How old is Lorde? Perhaps no question in recent history has so perplexed mankind. Lorde says she was born in November of 1996 (CE)—a claim that appears to be supported by her quote unquote “birth certificate.” In a recent interview with Lena Dunham, however, the New Zealand-born singer might have accidentally let the truth slip out once and for all.

Actress Rebel Wilson might play a college student in a terrible new movie I shan’t deign to identify here, but an old classmate of hers (no pun intended) says she hasn’t been one for a long time—longer than you think—no even longer than that!